*Timeline for Henry Reagar FRENCH -------------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1755 Father: Jacob FRENCH?? Mother: UNKNOWN
Occupation: Blacksmith, Gunsmith, Land Owner
Married: abt 1770, maybe MD or VA
Military Recruit: bef Apr 1779, VA?
City Trustee: 17 Apr 1779,Louisville, KY
Drew Lot 92: 24 Apr 1779, Louisville, KY
Wm Harrod's Co.: May-Dec 1779, Fort Sackville, KY
Rented Lot 92: 4 Apr 1780, Louisville, KY (to blacksmith Wm Spangler)
Battle of Blue Licks: 19 Aug 1782, Robertson County, KY
Witness to will: 21 Aug 1782, Lincoln County, KY (Edward Bulger killed at Blue Licks)
Jas Harrod testifies: 1790, LA (that Henry French sailed down the Mississippi River with him)
Death: 11 Aug 1821,Mercer County, KY
Burial: aft 11 Aug 1821 Boyle / Mercer County, KY (Nield Family Graveyard)
Spouses -------------------------------------------------- 1: Elizabeth EARSOM Birth: 30 Nov 1755 Death: 22 Mar 1828, Mercer County, KY Burial: aft 22 Mar 1828 Boyle / Mercer County, KY Father: Simon EARSOM (abt 1716-1796) Mother: UNKNOWN --------------------------------------------------
Children of Henry & Elizabeth: (some dates approximate) Christiana (1771-1852) Mary (1776-1858) Rebecca (1780-1828) George (1782-1837) Susannah (1785-1863) John (1788-1870) Dorothy (1791-1858) Henry (1795-1860) Elizabeth (1800-1885)
thanks for being the 1st to post. the chart is great.Did German's have a naming tradition?If Jacob is the father of Henry, I find it odd there are no grandsons named Jacob, unless you want to count 2nd son John. My ancestor John Peter French had 17 children- no Henry,Rebecca,Susannah or Dorothy. none of Henry's are named after Simon either. Linda
The list of Henry's known children comes from the 1828 heirs agreement. He didn't have a will. I'm not convinced that all the children are named in this list.
There is a Simon French that shows up in Mercer Co., KY before 1828 - supposedly born in NJ - who marries Mary Smock that year. I feel he has to be related to Henry, but I looked at him and his family a few years ago.I only confirmed last May that Elizabeth Earsom's father was actually Simon. I should review that information. There's also a Simon French in Christian Co., KY in 1800. Another French family claims him, but who knows how correct their research is.
For German naming patterns I found this and more at http://www.progenealogists.com/namingpatterns.htm#Germany:
"In central and southern Germany during the 1700s you find most of the boy children had the name Johann with a second given name. The child would use the middle name that was unique in daily life unless he was given a single name Johannes. Likewise all daughters in a family might have dual given names with the first name being Maria or Anna for most of the children... "
Knowing that Berkeley Co., WV, Frederick Co. and Orange Co. and I think Hagerstown, MD were all one and the same place but changed boundaries, it might be easier to figure out these French families who all are part of DNA Test Group 4.
Jacob French is the furthest back I've been able to research, but he seems to tie in with Chart #194.
Remember, this is only a DRAFT and needs a lot more shuffling, so please help with documents if you can.
Regards, Mara French http://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/
Vicki French Carroll has published photos of Henry's gravestone taken by Mary French Stewart last month. These are "before" photos - before digital enhancement.
They can be found at http://dmfrench79.blogspot.com in the website link section at the right and above.
German Naming Traditions and Patterns in PA At baptism, if two given names were given to the child, the first given name was a spiritual, saint's name. The second given name was the secular or call name, i.e., "rufnamen", which is the name the person was known by, both within the family and to the rest of the world. This custom was originally adopted in Germanic and other regions in Europe from Roman Catholic tradition and continued by the Protestants in their baptismal naming customs. The immigrants from these areas brought the custom with them to Pennsylvania. The spiritual name, usually to honor a favorite saint, was used repeatedly and was usually given to all the children of that family of the same gender. Thus the boys would be Johan Adam Kerchner, Johan George Kerchner, etc., or Philip Peter Kerchner, Philip Jacob Kerchner, etc. Girls would be named Anna Barbara Kerchner, Anna Margaret Kerchner, etc., or Maria Elizabeth Kerchner, Maria Catherine Kerchner, etc. But after baptism, these people would not be known as John, Philip, Anna, or Maria, respectively. They would instead be known by what we would think of now as their middle name, which was their secular name. Thus these people would be known respectively as Adam, George, Peter, Jacob, Barbara, Margaret, Elizabeth, and Catherine in legal and secular records. For males, the saint's name Johan or John for Saint John was particularly heavily used by many German families, but also Saint George was used by some families for male children. The child's secular name was really John, if and only if, at baptism he was named only John, usually spelled as Johannes, with no second given name. The name John spelled as Johannes is rarely seen spelled as Johannes as a spiritual name, i.e., you rarely will see the name at baptism recorded as Johannes Adam Kerchner, etc. It is generally always found spelled as Johan or Johann when used as a spiritual name. Thus, you find the spiritual name of John recorded as Johan Adam Kerchner or Johann Adam Kerchner, not Johannes Adam Kerchner. See German Naming Traditions and Patterns in PA for more information. One naming pattern for Germans was: 1st son after the father's father 2nd son after the mother's father 3rd son after the father 4th son after the father's father's father 5th son after the mother's father's father 6th son after the father's mother's father 7th son after the mother's mother's father 1st daughter after the mother's mother 2nd daughter after the father's mother 3rd daughter after the mother 4th daughter after the father's father's mother 5th daughter after the mother's father's mother 6th daughter after the father's mother's mother 7th daughter after the mother's mother's mother
At www.findagrave I found a photo of Henry's gravestone which I put on the latest version of Chart #31. I've also updated that chart quite a bit and will now move on to another chart in DNA Gp 4. The date for Chart #31 should read 4/5/11 on the first line. An interesting research project would be to take a look at the Vital Records link at the bottom of the Table of Contents and see what is mentioned under Circuit Court Records for Henry and Samuel French. It's a real puzzle. Also in that same file, I don't know where Clifton Rhodes French fits in. http://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/CHARTS/Chart031/index.htm Please let me know of any updates you have.
DNA French Testees, please identify yourself . . .
Every testee needs to go on their DNA web page by logging in with their kit number and password here: https://www.familytreedna.com/ Then look under Y-DNA and click on "Matches" Then under "My Account", click on "User Preferences" At the bottom of that page, you will see a box for "Paternal Side" Please enter a short description of your line there. It will immediately appear on this website: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/french/default.aspx?section=yresults
Only then can we learn more about your ancestry and help you find a connection.
*Timeline for Henry Reagar FRENCH
ReplyDelete--------------------------------------------------
Birth: abt 1755
Father: Jacob FRENCH??
Mother: UNKNOWN
Occupation: Blacksmith, Gunsmith, Land Owner
Married: abt 1770, maybe MD or VA
Military Recruit: bef Apr 1779, VA?
City Trustee: 17 Apr 1779,Louisville, KY
Drew Lot 92: 24 Apr 1779, Louisville, KY
Wm Harrod's Co.: May-Dec 1779, Fort Sackville, KY
Rented Lot 92: 4 Apr 1780, Louisville, KY (to blacksmith Wm Spangler)
Battle of Blue Licks: 19 Aug 1782, Robertson County, KY
Witness to will: 21 Aug 1782, Lincoln County, KY (Edward Bulger killed at Blue Licks)
Jas Harrod testifies: 1790, LA (that Henry French sailed down the Mississippi River with him)
Death: 11 Aug 1821,Mercer County, KY
Burial: aft 11 Aug 1821 Boyle / Mercer County, KY (Nield Family Graveyard)
Spouses
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1: Elizabeth EARSOM
Birth: 30 Nov 1755
Death: 22 Mar 1828, Mercer County, KY
Burial: aft 22 Mar 1828 Boyle / Mercer County, KY
Father: Simon EARSOM (abt 1716-1796)
Mother: UNKNOWN
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Children of Henry & Elizabeth:
(some dates approximate)
Christiana (1771-1852)
Mary (1776-1858)
Rebecca (1780-1828)
George (1782-1837)
Susannah (1785-1863)
John (1788-1870)
Dorothy (1791-1858)
Henry (1795-1860)
Elizabeth (1800-1885)
*All posted information is subject to revision
thanks for being the 1st to post. the chart is great.Did German's have a naming tradition?If Jacob is the father of Henry, I find it odd there are no grandsons named Jacob, unless you want to count 2nd son John.
ReplyDeleteMy ancestor John Peter French had 17 children- no Henry,Rebecca,Susannah or Dorothy. none of Henry's are named after Simon either. Linda
I think they were breaking with tradition..Philip didn't follow it but some of his sons had those family names.
ReplyDeletethis is working great! I was able to cut and paste and print the info for my files.
ReplyDeleteIt would be good to be able to post hyperlinks and files sometime in the future. Have to start somewhere. Linda
The list of Henry's known children comes from the 1828 heirs agreement. He didn't have a will. I'm not convinced that all the children are named in this list.
ReplyDeleteThere is a Simon French that shows up in Mercer Co., KY before 1828 - supposedly born in NJ - who marries Mary Smock that year. I feel he has to be related to Henry, but I looked at him and his family a few years ago.I only confirmed last May that Elizabeth Earsom's father was actually Simon. I should review that information. There's also a Simon French in Christian Co., KY in 1800. Another French family claims him, but who knows how correct their research is.
For German naming patterns I found this and more at http://www.progenealogists.com/namingpatterns.htm#Germany:
"In central and southern Germany during the 1700s you find most of the boy children had the name Johann with a second given name. The child would use the middle name that was unique in daily life unless he was given a single name Johannes. Likewise all daughters in a family might have dual given names with the first name being Maria or Anna for most of the children... "
I've put together a VERY rough draft of FFA Chart #195, Jacob French.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/CHARTS/Chart195/
Knowing that Berkeley Co., WV, Frederick Co. and Orange Co. and I think Hagerstown, MD were all one and the same place but changed boundaries, it might be easier to figure out these French families who all are part of DNA Test Group 4.
Jacob French is the furthest back I've been able to research, but he seems to tie in with Chart #194.
Remember, this is only a DRAFT and needs a lot more shuffling, so please help with documents if you can.
Regards, Mara French
http://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/
Vicki French Carroll has published photos of Henry's gravestone taken by Mary French Stewart last month. These are "before" photos - before digital enhancement.
ReplyDeleteThey can be found at http://dmfrench79.blogspot.com in the website link section at the right and above.
German Naming Traditions and Patterns in PA
ReplyDeleteAt baptism, if two given names were given to the child, the first given name was a spiritual, saint's name. The second given name was the secular or call name, i.e., "rufnamen", which is the name the person was known by, both within the family and to the rest of the world. This custom was originally adopted in Germanic and other regions in Europe from Roman Catholic tradition and continued by the Protestants in their baptismal naming customs. The immigrants from these areas brought the custom with them to Pennsylvania. The spiritual name, usually to honor a favorite saint, was used repeatedly and was usually given to all the children of that family of the same gender. Thus the boys would be Johan Adam Kerchner, Johan George Kerchner, etc., or Philip Peter Kerchner, Philip Jacob Kerchner, etc. Girls would be named Anna Barbara Kerchner, Anna Margaret Kerchner, etc., or Maria Elizabeth Kerchner, Maria Catherine Kerchner, etc. But after baptism, these people would not be known as John, Philip, Anna, or Maria, respectively. They would instead be known by what we would think of now as their middle name, which was their secular name. Thus these people would be known respectively as Adam, George, Peter, Jacob, Barbara, Margaret, Elizabeth, and Catherine in legal and secular records. For males, the saint's name Johan or John for Saint John was particularly heavily used by many German families, but also Saint George was used by some families for male children. The child's secular name was really John, if and only if, at baptism he was named only John, usually spelled as Johannes, with no second given name. The name John spelled as Johannes is rarely seen spelled as Johannes as a spiritual name, i.e., you rarely will see the name at baptism recorded as Johannes Adam Kerchner, etc. It is generally always found spelled as Johan or Johann when used as a spiritual name. Thus, you find the spiritual name of John recorded as Johan Adam Kerchner or Johann Adam Kerchner, not Johannes Adam Kerchner. See German Naming Traditions and Patterns in PA for more information. One naming pattern for Germans was:
1st son after the father's father
2nd son after the mother's father
3rd son after the father
4th son after the father's father's father
5th son after the mother's father's father
6th son after the father's mother's father
7th son after the mother's mother's father
1st daughter after the mother's mother
2nd daughter after the father's mother
3rd daughter after the mother
4th daughter after the father's father's mother
5th daughter after the mother's father's mother
6th daughter after the father's mother's mother
7th daughter after the mother's mother's mother
At www.findagrave I found a photo of Henry's gravestone which I put on the latest version of Chart #31. I've also updated that chart quite a bit and will now move on to another chart in DNA Gp 4. The date for Chart #31 should read 4/5/11 on the first line. An interesting research project would be to take a look at the Vital Records link at the bottom of the Table of Contents and see what is mentioned under Circuit Court Records for Henry and Samuel French. It's a real puzzle. Also in that same file, I don't know where Clifton Rhodes French fits in.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/CHARTS/Chart031/index.htm
Please let me know of any updates you have.
DNA French Testees, please identify yourself . . .
ReplyDeleteEvery testee needs to go on their DNA web page by logging in with their kit number and password here: https://www.familytreedna.com/
Then look under Y-DNA and click on "Matches"
Then under "My Account", click on "User Preferences"
At the bottom of that page, you will see a box for "Paternal Side"
Please enter a short description of your line there. It will immediately appear on this website:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/french/default.aspx?section=yresults
Only then can we learn more about your ancestry and help you find a connection.
Regards,
Mara French
I straightened up and cleared the 1790 KY map that Linda sent.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/LARGE/1790KYMap.pdf
You can enlarge it over 200%